Now some may say Bobby had the last word or got his closure, but I tend to disagree. See, in last night's episode, Bethenny discussed the final meeting with Sonjia, the newest Housewife to join the cast. She told Sonjia that Bobby revealed to her that he had a "full life. Otherwise, he would have died a contented man without seeing Bethenny one last time to attempt to make things right and say goodbye.
Why did he call her back and have a last-minute change of heart if something weren't itching him? And really, he should have itched sooner--because let's face it, it was itching him his whole life, just as it was his daughter--these are lives--flesh and blood.
Sometimes kids will break your heart but you should suffer on silence. If her mother was a remotely decent person she would deny the abuse allegations WITHOUT insulting her daughter publicly no matter what her Daughter said.
With the way her mother is acting I have a very hard time believing she was not an abuser. My mother is like that. It gives her pleasure to trash me to her friends and then act innocent about it. The worst part is that people believe her! She should get a ton of therapy before her daughter hates her, too.
This it it. She is the product of her environment. I come from a similar environment like Bethany…however, I act nothing like her. ASB, it would have the potential to be very damaging. Tammy, you must have a great deal of inner strength and intelligence to put your past behind you that way.
I feel for Bethanny but you have a good point. At some time, you have to be responsible for yourself. It had the definition of betrayal printed out in it. He is the spitting image of me when I was his age btw. I will never do this to my son! Oh, Willa. I feel for you. Things like this is often said in front of other people. It just sucks that that pain is redirected at me. That being said: I honestly hope that some day you can walk away from this evil person.
I have dealt with a mean, manipulative, lying person just like the woman you described up close, although I personally am lucky enough to not have anyone like that in my family. The way you describe your mother, I personally am concerned that at some point she might try to influence your daughter, that she might try to turn her against you.
Please be careful, be very careful. No one should be treated like that especially from their mother. When you describe your mom lashing out on you it really hits home with me because my mom does the same to me and not my sister. I get the crap end just like you. I wish you well friend. Willa: You tried.
Good for you to get the poison out of your life. My mom is like a petulant child. She developed an eating disorder at 55, she has unsolved problem with her late father who fought for nazi-germany during the war and had major PTSD and she carries with her a lot of shame. Do I give her a pass for being a terrible mother to me?
Complicated family matters are hard to grasp from the outside. And even harder to judge when you are on the inside. I read your second post as coming from someone who has accepted reality and found a way to deal with it. You sound grounded, and smart, and loving. All the best to you. Having children is a choice, and an incredible responsibility.
No one chooses to be born. This dynamic is not a two way street, the responsibility and failure is NOT equitable. Children owe only the love and respect that given them. If Bethenny was raised by an uncovered addict, she was set up for failure from day one. For her mother to feel justified criticizing her, without demonstrating a shred of remorse for the reality that she, as a mother epically failed, is ridiculous.
Bethenny was born in , before Roe v. In my profession, I work with many older women who express dislike and hate and jealousy toward their ish plus age children and talk about not having ever wanted them.
Although then again they would have probably faced social scorn for doing so. So sad. She is one messed up woman. And yes, no wonder Bethenny is the way she is.
I had a friend an only child like Bethenny whose father was also not in her life due to him being an alcoholic, among other things. Her mom ended up being killed in a car accident about 5 years ago, and at the time she said to me and a few other friends that she was sad because she would never really know for sure now whether her mother actually loved her.
There are some very crappy parents out there, people who probably should never have had kids in the first place. Makes me glad to have the parents that I do and appreciate my upbringing even more. Sounds like something my mom could have said. Wish she would have moved the bag out of the way so I could see it! Just inappropriate. Mom sounds very harsh. I agree with you.
These kind of things go on for generations. I have always believed Jason was fighting for custody for the well being of Bryn. She clearly has no interest in playing nice on the small hope that she could maybe meet her granddaughter. What a low and creepy woman. Wow-my mom and her mom should go have coffee sometime. My mom is the exact same way. Toxic as hell.
When I had my own kids, it really hit home at just how awful she is to her own kids. I walked away and never looked back.
Not a Bethenny fan by any stretch of the imagination, but on this instance I can feel a little bad for her. Cut them off and get your mentality healthy. If you can keep them in your life and deal with it and stay healthy for your own family, great.
Eileen, kudos to you for cutting her off and stopping the vicious cycle. You sound like someone who at some point understood love and never looked back.
Good for you, and even better for your kids. For some reason you freak having a link to someone who was capable of behaving that way and to this day refuses to accept it. I will commit myself if I ever do. I promise you, you will never be your mother. Look at your self-awareness! Look at you, catching yourself saying those things immediately, and reflecting on it! And you would get help, right? So, nothing to worry about. The best thing we can do is be better mothers and stop the cycle!
It was like a 10 ton weight had been lifted from me when I realized there is nothing I can do to change or help the situation and I was so relieved it seriously took so much stress and anguish off me.
So thank you for sharing your stories. And hugs all around. I can empathize Eileen. Growing up I simply wanted my mother to like me, I was constantly trying to work out what I was doing wrong and how I could improve so that she would like me and not see me as this evil person. I was constantly apologising and begging forgiveness from her, yet the word sorry never passed her lips. Any genetic or inherent predisposition towards pathologies that can be destructive requires special care by the parents.
Addiction, depression, non Neuro typical spectrum disorders etc etc. I do think that many parents feel isolated and overwhelmed when confronted with a set of issues and needs they are not equipped to address. Our society needs to do a much better job of providing support and education. Bottom line, there are way more inadequate parents than there are children who were completely beyond help. In this context of this thread about an uncovered alcoholic mother, that seemed a reality worth emphasizing.
Bethenny has risen above everything that happened to her…. She is just as toxic as her mother. I feel bad for their daughter. This chick only cries for herself. Gimme a small break. Bethenny seems to be just as nasty and cold hearted as her mother and is repeating her own childhood with Bryn. Too many people have come out to say Bethenny is a liar and manipulates and uses people to get ahead, so I believe it.
The way she treated Jason and his parents was beyond horrible and selfish, I think she used him to have a baby and once her company made money she was out.
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